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Ok so I thought I'd go back and have a look at making a mission on FATA, it's a map I've always wanted to make a mission on but I couldn't remember why I hadn't.
So as I normally do I place my test composition down. It's basically a player with zeus, the ALiVE required module, Virtual AI system module, the Civilian placement and presence modules with no filters, extreme placement, and 35 pop cap all with debug turned on.
I check the largest settlement on the map and it lights up all green and happy, but civilians are only spawning in a line?
Yup sure enough
I thought it was an issue with the map, but you up the pop cap to 100 and now it starts to look better
finally 250 pop limit gives a good spread of civilians
Now obviously that many civilians is stupid unless you enjoy single digit frame rates.
I thought maybe I could really lower the spawn radius as I approach the town the building closest would populate and then as I walk through the town that "bubble" of civilians would make it feel more populated.
But no, as soon as I get close enough to the town for anything to spawn they just spawn right down that line again.
So is there any way to add some more randomization to the spawning process?
I mean it would be great to see something more like this with a 35 pop limit
At least that way you wouldn't be wandering through large portions of the town without seeing a single civilian.
Couple more examples from the large town on GOS Dariyah
Maybe it's only because I can see "behind the curtain" so to speak, but this sort of thing really kills the immersion for me.
Unless something's changed recently it just doesn't work
You should be able to use the Simulation manager module to disable simulation on the base units when you're away from base.
@Guitar18 I do believe that suicide bombers will only detonate if the civ is hostile. A lot of suicide bombers I came across who didn’t detonate did not have high hostility.
Which seems a little silly, I mean if you're friendly to troops why put on a suicide vest
20 min nights? Jeez at that point why not just pause time altogether
We normally run at 3 x speed for our missions. Just place the time acceleration module down in the editor and change the speed factor.
Everytime there a Lythium thread I cry just a little more. It's arguably the best map for Arma 3 but it's also probably the most frustrating.
It's not just ALiVE that struggles with it either. We often run variants of the BTC Hearts and Minds mission, and that suffers from similar spawning issues and dead zones.
That's a good point, realistically they would all gather at a staging point before assaulting a town en masse
Couple of things really, and this really is just a wishlist.
One thing that's been bugging me lately is that if there's no airfield on a landlocked map then I can't use ALiVE for airstrikes. It would be awesome if there was a virtual airstrike option. I know there's always been a push to avoid virtual supports, but I just think given the size of a lot of maps, virtual would be a good option to simulate coalition air forces on standby.
Rolling in Spyders civilian interaction system, or coming up with something similar for that increased immersion. Nothing like being told certain civilians are up to no good. I know the devs looked at persisting civilian names and struck issues, but something like that would be amazing. Making the civilians seem more "alive"
IED's could use some love. The EOD mod promised so much but never actually delivered anything that wasn't a buggy mess. I'd really like to see actual dickers watching over IED's they've planted, maybe IED making materials in a house/compound which could work in with the civilians being up to no good, more IED objects like gas canisters etc.
Now this one's really pie in the sky and a ton of work no doubt, but it would be awesome if ALiVE detected ACE running and replaced all the addactions with ACE interactions. The scroll wheel interaction system needs to die.
A couple of things I've picked up playing BTC Hearts and Minds missions:
An interpreter role/s- These are set by the mission maker and only players with this role can get information from civilians, simulating lack of knowledge in the local dialect.
OPFOR UAV's - In the H&M missions the OPFOR will use the cargo drones and drop grenades from them, similar to the way ISIS have been using drones to drop 40mm grenades.
I also really like this one side mission in the H&M mission where you have to go and do medical on an injured civilian, although that's only really fun if you play with ACE advanced medical.
One final thing, and I have no idea how this couple be implemented, but it would be amazing if the enemy ran supply convoys (especially for the non insurgency missions) that could be disrupted. I just really like the idea of doing recon to find a convoy route and setting up an ambush/calling in a strike to take the convoy out, and for it to actually affect the war somehow.
Oh and just to back up @Cobra I also preferred having to blow up installations instead of the hold action. It was often fun to just drop a JDAM on target buildings :)
Ok thanks for that, so I should be putting 300 into the module field to get 5 mins right, it's not going to do something like 300 * 5 mins?