TheDragon117

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  1. 6 years ago
    Fri Jun 2 03:15:13 2017

    After going over every module and making corrections to the errors I could find I still wasn't having any luck. So I started deleting modules one by one to see if I could find the culprit that way. Once I'd deleted all the modules pertaining to the friendly side, (NATO, US Army, and Marines) I finally saw the blessed tablet pop up saying it was saving. so I know what ever was keeping it from saving had to involve one of those modules. I waited for it to shut the server down to the lobby. Happy and excited I closed the server out waited a minute then loaded it again. My mission is pretty large so I'm used to long loads, around 10 minutes usually, but around the 15 minute mark I started to suspect there was a problem so I opened up the rpt file and sure enough it was looping " ALiVE OPCOM Waiting for Virtual AI System..." and had been apparently for a while. I still waited a bit just to see if maybe it would pull out of it but around 13 minutes of it looping the same message I went ahead and shut it down. As far as the mission goes I'm going thinking I made an error in judgement building it as far as I did without trying to make sure persistence would work first. I'm thinking I may delete my modules all the way out delete alive and reinstall it just to make sure its a good clean install, then slowly build it back in testing after ever couple of modules to hopefully detect the problem as soon as it happens instead of trying to check for issues corresponding between a bunch already placed. heret I don't see where it went south, when it saved it seemed to do fine, but when it loaded it tanked.

    Perhaps something will be more evident to better trained eyes then mine. It just seems like I'm getting hit with errors from every direction, I don't know if its possible but maybe something was wrong with my first download and its just been making errors and a mess from there. I didn't get a chance to look for another public server to get on yet and see if it loaded my profile there or not that will have to be a goal for tomorrow. Might take a day or so off before trying again from scratch. Its a shame cause the mission played so well my friends and I had a blast. I'll stay persistent at it, even if my server won't, eventually I hope to crack it.

  2. Thu Jun 1 12:19:10 2017

    I have ai disabled in my mission normally so that doesn't hurt my feelings, but that is good to know so that I don't attribute it to any issues while I'm troubleshooting. Are their any official alive servers that I can join when I get home from work today to see if my war room profile works on a server that isn't mine that definitely set up right?

  3. Thu Jun 1 00:32:14 2017

    Well, swing and a miss. I still have a few more modules to go through to check the status on but still couldn't save after removing the duplicate Data. Could I possibly need to delete both and then place another one? I'm considering rebuilding the mission from scratch and being very careful as I place each module.

    Also I tried your mission, i was able to save and load back where I was, but I still got the error about not being able to load my profile from the war room, something is either broken or I haven't registered, which I have., and the AI didn't load next to me where I had run to so still seemed a bit off.

    Could this potentially have to do with the fact that I have my server installed on a secondary drive? And I still don't understand why no matter what mission I play it cannot load me from the war room, so I think I still have at least two separate issues.

  4. Wed May 31 16:35:34 2017

    I'll have to test when I get home but I very well may have found at least one of my problems. I was going off memory every time I checked my modules the last few times. This time I was going down the list on the left clicking each one going to the wiki and reading the entry to make sure I was using it right, (still going through the process going to do each one just to make sure) and I realized I had two Data modules, one I had placed earlier on and thought I had deleted or that I hadn't realized I'd placed, and it just got over looked repeatedly because it wasn't the module I was looking for at the time. That one had completely different settings from the one that I had actually configured to save my database. (on top of there only supposed to be one.) I'm thinking that likely is at least one culprit. When I get to my server I will test it and see for sure and let you guys know. Even if it works I'm going to look at each of the steps you guys have suggested and issues you've found as I want to make sure this is running as smoothly and efficiently as possible and to prevent creating any bugs later that will confuse me to this degree.

  5. Wed May 31 13:49:22 2017

    I am a bit embarrassed for missing that, but even more grateful you pointed it out. I had gotten so tunnel vision I was mostly only looking at the settings inside the modules especially the settings regarding persistence. Since the mission played well otherwise I didn't really look as hard there as I apparently should have. This evening I'll sit down load the provided mission, and use your source for the server files. Until I can get to my server I'm going to go over each module in the wiki again and check it against what I've tried to use it for. Fingers crossed that will be my issue and I'll happily remember that double checking everything means genuinely going back to my first steps. While it is a lot to learn it is incredibly rewarding when things work, and much easier to learn when you have people willing to help, like you guys.

  6. Wed May 31 02:17:44 2017

    First off thanks so much for being willing to help guys sorry I didn't respond sooner, I didn't see the email telling me you guys had responded.

    TADST did seem the most simple route when I started hosting a server, and
    I just assumed it was the standard because it seemed pretty much idiot proof, but the persistence thing is introducing a whole new set of needs that TADST maker probably wasn't including in his scope. I did read those tutorials, and then went over them a second time, but probably going to go over them a 3rd time. I've been trying to teach myself how to write scripts during this process and its completely possible that on a night I stayed up way to late trying to make something work I messed something else up without realizing it. Though other then persistence everything else works incredibly well for me.

    Though on a probably important note I just realized today apparently I mistook things from the units from BI to be from the War Room, forgot I was playing with that the other day and used the same image, and just assumed it was from the War Room. It seems most of my information does get sent to the war room though as far as kills and battle feed/operations feed, just when I hit Save and Exit server I don't get a tablet and it doesn't shut down.

    I double checked my IP address and host name, those are definitely right. modules and such will take a day or so to dig through.

    TADST Folder is here. For the @aliveserver It's the one I downloaded from the War Room on Friday when I was trying to set up the servers I thought, I did re-download it again, from the server setup page in the war room, I don't see a version number to verify its the right one though.Is there source that is more reliable or definitely up to date? For Alive I'm subbed on the steam workshop (but server file did come from War Room) is that an official source that would be up to date as well? I'm going to recheck everything again, it would be brilliant if I could find one setting that I did wrong that just fixed it all, but again thanks so much for being willing to give a more experienced second and third looks over things.

  7. Tue May 30 13:50:44 2017

    I appreciate the input. I'd be willing to learn something other then TADST if that might solve the problems I'm experiencing, but I'm thinking as a whole I probably have at least 2 separate problems. Since I can actually get ALiVE to save in a test environment obviously something somewhere in my mission is messing up, but even then I get an error about connecting to the war room even though everything does load. I've double and triple checked my modules and don't see anything that seems to be wrong. I ran one of the included ALiVE missions which just seems to further complicate my understanding of the problem as the mission would save, but my player wouldn't. So I'm kind of perplexed and starting to think the issue may just be a mistake on my part somewhere in this process that is creating a range of problems. On the one hand, the error is the only thing constant, but I'm getting three different results in 3 different scenarios. It seems persistence is going to be the one thing that gives me a bald spot from all the head scratching I'm doing. I usually try to sort things out on my own, cause I don't like to use up mod devs valuable time but I've kind of reached my limit of understanding from all the resources I can find.

  8. Mon May 29 22:52:45 2017

    I"m not 100% sure this is the same issue, if not moderator can let me know I'll gladly create a new thread if need be. Sorry in the delayed reply, been pulling the mission apart piece by piece trying to see if I can find that one thing that once its gone everything works. I wanted to find the solution on my own to avoid wasting other peoples time but I've got to admit defeat at this point. The reports can be found in my dropbox here I got it to save in one of my test environments but can't get it to save in the mission. I've removed all mods except for Alive. and still no avail. In case it helps mission that won't save. I can also get a copy of the one that will save but it would take some time to un-mod it, but if that's what it takes just let me know.

    I don't know if this is helpful but a couple of things that have come to my attention during this, when i login it is stating I'm without Identity. Also I've noticed that my server keeps saying it has the wrong APPID, but it doesn't not sure why, but i don't think those should contribute cause I had the same problem with the test environment but that will load and on that mission I had all my mods active so don't think its a mod issue either. Although in the test environment its in VR and it gives me an error saying it can't find an alive script it works anyways. The other thing which I think may be an actual contributing factor is every time I log in it tells me it cannot load my War Room profile, despite that it downloads my information from the War Room cause my email and icon show up on my player information on the map, and all of my information seems to get sent to the war room, as it shows in the battle-feed and operations and such. and I can re-watch the match in the live-feed and it has all of that information, but when shut down and come back in, it starts from scratch again.

    On a side note, if anyone that can help with that also happens to know if there is a way to reset my stats cause I've now joined like 30 operations testing this one script which has completely thrown all my stats off.

  9. Mon May 29 16:49:46 2017

    I don't suppose anything was discovered on this as I'm running an identical issue on my server setup.

  10. Mon May 22 19:31:58 2017
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