Check this first. In-game open the ALiVE Menu. Click Operations and see if your side has any motorized or armored virtual profiles in the groups list.

Then debug Virtual AI and see if the enemy commander has spawned armored and motorized vehicles around the map.

Also do this: in the Virtual AI module, make sure it’s set to “virtualize synced” units. Make sure to sync the choppers you placed for both sides to the Virtual AI module. Make sure it’s the choppers you are syncing, and not the units inside it.

Yes please try it the other way. Virtualize only synced units. Humor me. Try it.

Send me that mission with the Virtual AI set for unit’s synced please and I’ll check after work later.

Thanks. No biggie I can check this myself, but since it’ll be a few hours and you seem free. You say they are all close to each other. I’m assuming this mean all profiles on all sides are spawned into the game world on mission start because of how small the playable area is.

This is not a typical use case for ALiVE. I’m fact, if this is the kind of mission you want to make I see no sense in using ALiVE at all since you won’t be using the Virtual AI profile system.

Does this behavior improve if you spread out the battlefield where both sides are far enough away the enemyside is virtualized on mission start?

Nevermind, the mission is setup fine. Ok, so yeah, I think something is up. I can see in the Operations menu that the virtualized helicopters don't show up as available groups for BLU. Fairly certain they should be in this list as "air" and they are indeed not They also don't move, so not totally sure what's going on.

I have to wonder if something has changed and some functions have been shifted over to MACC. Honestly I'm going to have to bring this to our Dev Slack so be patient with me until I can get a reply. Thanks for the report and I'll be back when I hear something.

Yeah please do. A specific dev is the one that wrote all this air stuff and he’s busy at the moment. Consensus in Dev Slack from the others is that it must have shifted over to MACC. Please confirm it works with the Air Commander if you have a chance. If I hear back I’ll let you know.

@Lukeocyte Air unit logic has been shifted over to MACC. :)

I haven’t used MACC hardly at all myself. Make sure the marker area the air commander has defined as his airspace has enemies within it though. Common mistake.

Well considering all air control has been shifted over to MACC that would be quite the regression. I’m really not to open acquainted with the setup for it though. I have a general idea.

Can you make an ALIVE and CBA only mission with MACC that demonstrates the problem and post it here? I may have to ping someone else to look at it though.

@V_Vulpes Hey thanks for the report.

I believe the problem is related to all Air profiles having been shifted over to the new Air Commander. Without it they won’t do anything, as opposed to how they used to in the past. Are you using the Air Commander module or no? If so, what’s the problem? If not, try it out and report back.

@V_Vulpes if you’ve used MACC before and feel there’s a new problem, feel free to open a ticket here:

https://github.com/ALiVEOS/ALiVE.OS/issues