So I'm working on making mission on CLAfghan where instead of a traditional Assymetric Insurgency, I want to make the playable force a Spec Ops team that receives C2ISTAR generated tasks (but also requires to player to do typical Assymetric prevention stuff along the way). But I'm noticing that the entire C2ISTAR system seems really buggy and I'm wondering if there's any realistic way to mitigate that.

1. With auto tasking enabled, without question the first set of tasks never shows up on my map. The tasks themselves generate, but since there are no markers there's obviously no way for me to accept the mission. Also, there's no "set task" option for these initial missions in the "Task" menu. This means I always need to delete the initial tasks and request a new one (then everything seems to work).

2. Two tasks always generate on mission start but they are always identical, except with different phrases being used. Is that intended? And one of them is always not allowed to be deleted.

3. Is there any way within the mod files to restrict which kind of missions get generated?

4. In the future, could we get the option to blacklist map areas where tasks can be generated? If auto tasks generate within the enemy's mil/civ obj blacklisted area, the mission will spawn but no enemies will.

I love the idea of C2ISTAR and when it works it's an INCREDIBLE change of pace from basic patrolling. But, it's sort of buggy and not something I think I can commit to unless I can figure out some workarounds for this stuff. Any help or insight would be GREATLY appreciated.

The tasking system was originally just a placeholder to give testers something to do (we get bored and violent if not placated with drugs/women/Arma).. and was created some time ago. There were bugs even then and I'm sure that with all the A3 changes over the last year or so this has only gotten worse.

A few things to try:

- test C2ISTAR on a different map than Clafghan - if there is a map out there that has weirder issues than Clafghan I've yet to see it. I'm thinking this might be the cause of issue #1

- test without Auto-tasking.... so manually request tasks and see if you get the same errors

I can't recall if there is a method of blacklisting certain tasks... will try to search.

Thanks. You're right about CLAfghan being the weirdest map ever. I had to remove a helicopter fastrope script because it throws AI pilots for a loop trying to find a safe place to hover. Also without it, just asking them to land in the mountains, has a 50/50 chance of them sliding all the way down when they attempt it and everyone exploding in a moment of Hollywood bad-ass-ism. :) On one try last night my AI teammates saw we were going down and they tried to eject before succumbing to their fire-y doom. I was like, WTF? LOL!

Any info you find would be great. I think when C2ISTAR is working properly it adds a lot of fun and depth to the experience. I sort of want to play as a Spec Ops guy but just patrolling feels wrong. CLAfghan would be amazing for some set "missions" I think because of the mountains and the cover and the extreme lack of actual cities. We just need some objectives damnit! Spookwarcom would actually be a decent choice but I don't think it works on a dedicated server unfortunately. So I'd like to get C2ISTAR up and running. I hate to change the map but I could see it being the source of my issues.

You can blacklist certain tasks with a staticData entry.. will search for a post because I'm lazy and don't want to post the steps again

Cool. I'm lazy too but I swear I did a search on the forums here before posting my questions. My laziness be damned I tried!

I actually had that thought the other day when talking with Ski about some kind of tasking system (whether that be C2ISTAR, Zeus, MCC or what have you). I briefly read the first page of the MCC thread and OMG it sounds really really complicated. LOL! I guess like anything else, you pick it up over time though.

Are MCC and ALiVE running well on a dedicated server for you?

Ideally I'd like to keep this all ALiVE based but if I can't figure out how to blacklist stuff and if it keeps being wonky as hell, MCC sounds like a decent option. If I can figure it out.

I think if there was a way to blacklist certain tasks, ALiVE's C2ISTAR missions I'm finding are actually pretty decent. They'll do the trick for me. I just don't want to have to do some of them.

Alright, couldn't find any old posts.
Here's how you blacklist certain tasks.

staticData.sqf should be a file you create in the root of your mission folder

init.sqf

execVM "staticData.sqf";

staticData.sqf

waitUntil {!isNil "ALiVE_STATIC_DATA_LOADED"};
ALIVE_autoGeneratedTasks = ["MilAssault","MilDefence","CivAssault","Assassination","TransportInsertion","DestroyVehicles","DestroyInfantry","SabotageBuilding","InsurgencyPatrol","InsurgencyDestroyAssets"];

Remove an entry from the array to stop that task from being generated.

For example, removing MilAssault (first entry) would look like

ALIVE_autoGeneratedTasks = ["MilDefence","CivAssault","Assassination","TransportInsertion","DestroyVehicles","DestroyInfantry","SabotageBuilding","InsurgencyPatrol","InsurgencyDestroyAssets"];

So I've got to say, using C2ISTAR as my primary means of interacting with ALiVE has really been quite enjoyable on small(ish) maps such as FATA! It's awesome getting a task in the dead of night, putting on the NVG's (with Full Screen Night Vision mod), helicoptering to an objective start point, and raining Hell on Insurgent forces. And having a full blown war going on in the background while I focus on objectives is a nice change of pace.

I really hope this system gets some love in the next update. What's here, although wonky (objectives getting placed off map is a very common occurrence regardless of the map) is marvelous and engaging. Perfect for Spec OPS type play. :)

Quick question: Will there be any major downside that anyone can think of if I have the OPFOR set to Assymetric while I primarily only do the C2ISTAR tasks? Basically, I only have my squad do typical patrol if there's a town or village on my way to the task marker. Are the spawned friendly Occupying units (via the mil/civ obj modules) typically decent at keeping the insurgents at bay on their own or is the Assymetrical model really super reliant on the player squad doing most of the patrol/blowing up stuff? I ask this because if I'm not taking care of blowing up enemy HQ's (for example), will my BLUEFOR profiled units do this on their own?

I'm wondering if you guys could put some kind of fail-safe into the clear town objective. It's pretty much guaranteed that I'll clear the area and go 10+ minutes without the objective ever finishing. I'm assuming the radius for the enemy check is probably pretty large, which I get due to various map sizes. Would something like having the task auto compete if no combat is engaged after 2-3 minutes be impossible to add in? Or perhaps making the enemy radius check the actual size of the town (if indeed it's programmed RL check for enemies)?

Also, let's say a task just doesn't work and needs to be deleted via the commander tablet. Would there be any way to get a new one auto-generated (with auto-generating tasks on of course) if no tasks are currently cued?

I think also the transport troop task (guys won't consistently board vehicle. I think it has to do with if they sense an enemy presence nearby) and the defend objective task (enemies sometimes don't attack the objective, meaning we'll all arrive to the marker and just sit there) aren't really working either. LOL! I know you guys have said that the whole C2ISTAR thing was more of an afterthought brought in to give devs something to do during testing, but that said, I really like the concept of it! Especially on small maps as sort of a "waypoint generator" for me to head towards while on patrol.

When it works it's wonderful. I Hope there's some way to clean it up a bit if you guys have the time.

EDIT: I see now that a few months ago it was confirmed "clear the town" is actually broken on A2 maps. No wonder I'm having issues. I'm playing on FATA.