I think it was because I threw my faction code inside a Code spoiler and it was very long. I thought I broke the forums or something.

Stuff is still showing up in Editor in Alive, but not showing as Zeus units.

Out of curiosity @ski2060 are you running ares or the other one?

Ares or Achilles? Yes, but not for checking out the new ORBAT stuff. I've been using minimal mods, CBA, ACE, ALIVE.
Edit: Actually, not even ACE for testing purposes. Just CBA and Alive for checking the faction PBO.
Maybe I should try with Achilles on...

@ski2060 curious to know if you had any luck with Achilles. I haven't tried running vanilla Zeus but with the addons it shows up.

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@HeroesandvillainsOS  So I select the faction I want to use as a base, I rename it so I don't overwrite the original one, and begin editing the units (changing their original classnames, etc).

Unless you explained it wrong, misstep is here.

Select the faction you want, then go to the edit units screen and import all the units from that faction, THEN before you change the units, go back and change the factions name and save it.

Once you do that, you can go in and edit the units. I change properties first, just bc I don't know. It is possible that's required, otherwise any loadout changes get overwritten when you create the "new" unit, similar to when you create the new faction. Spyder would be best to confirm or deny this. So yeah, since we can't rule this out as another possible misstep I say just try defining unit first and getting it on the list, THEN go in and edit loadout.

Anyway, To explain that unit creation screen (as far as I understand it):

The left half is the unit you are making. The right half is the already existing unit you want to use as a template. Whatever you don't change will be inherited from that unit, if it is defined.

As far as I can tell, there is still some work to be done on the system remembering your choices if you re-open that screen. You are correct. Currently, the right half clears if you close preferences, then go back and try to change them again. Because of this I've been careful to ensure I get properties right on the first go round, or I try to remember exactly what was on the right half if I have to make changes.

After you create the custom units you want, they should be at the bottom of the units list, and should retain whatever loadouts you set. That done, you create the groups you want. There will be a bunch of groups there that existed inside the original faction, and they will all be populated with the original factions units. If you don't change the class names of every unit at the beginning they should still work. You can create whatever custom groups you want at this point by creating a group on the right side, naming it and giving it a class, then saving. After, simply choose which unit you want to add from the left side, and click add unit to group or whatever it says.

Once you've created your custom units and groups, go back to the faction screen and export, and do that whole thing.

That's the process that works for me. First select faction, then go to edit units and import the originals, then go back to edit faction, change its properties and save. Then go back to edit units and make your custom units, being careful to ensure you don't mess the properties up until that's fixed. Then go make your custom groups. Then go back to faction, export. Pack as pbo, etc.

As a note, it sounds like we are working on the same factions. Massi's African Units or the Project OpFOR. What is your objective? Maybe we can split the load.

It's all good man, just letting him know I noticed it too. It's a free product and you're on your own time, do your thing! Besides, it's in alpha and it's still better than what BIS could come up with.

@HeroesandvillainsOS 
At the moment I'm giving Massi's units RHS weaponry and ACE 3 stuff, because I positively can't stand his AK sounds but the units look great.

After that I'm working on better civilian groups and factions, and some specialized stuff like VIPs and hostages and what not, that can be used with alive. I mean to ask spyder about combining alive with vanilla missions that spawn stuff in on a trigger... Idea is to combine ALiVE's dynamic nature with the capability to also have intricately scripted missions to take part in, something SQF and Eden are actually really good at. But I'm not there yet.

If you happen to know of a mod with up aramor SUV's and vip cars, that'd be great lol. Can't find anything.

Heh, yeah I'm an old military guy so that type of stuff comes in to play a bit for me. People have done a great job with the assets that exist though, very close or spot on. Especially massi and RHS, but RHS does a better job with vehicles and weapons, and it works with Jsrs. Massi does a better job with high speed uniforms and such, and an outstanding job with OPFOR. And now thanks to @SpyderBlack723 idiots like myself can combine the two no problem!

More than anything else, it's the map that has to feel right for me. I can't play on Fallujah for example, because it just totally breaks my experience lol. Not that they didn't do a great job, just... Not Fallujah is all.

Anyhow... Ok so I was under the impression that the types of missions I'm talking about could be multiplayer now, and that they supported persistence and saves out of the box. Such news that that's not the case makes me very sad, if it's true. How's the apex campaign work, then?

And sure when I'm done I'll share.

I'll shoot you a pm in the morning, regarding more defined missions. I'm understanding what you're saying, but just so hopefully a dev sees and answers, I was referring to vanilla Arma 3 server behavior. I thought that with the release of apex it would now persist multiplayer missions. I'm probably wrong, but then.. Apex is a multiplayer campaign using all the standard triggers and such, and you can play over multiple server based MP sessions, so I dunno.

I'll check your faction out, glad you were able to get it working :). I seriously picked up Arma like a few months ago, so don't look at me for too many more fixes, lol. I'm
still at the "how do I get them to go into the damned boat" phase of scripting.

One last question. Most factions don't have boats... And I'm working on a Tanoa thing. If I spawn empty opfor boats, and put the faction I'm using in them, they just sit there. My suspicion is that it's because the boats themselves come from a different faction. But I don't want the OPCOM spawning CSAT stuff, so I can't give him control over it.. Little lost on how to implement, besides making a custom faction of course.

Don't bother with the last question. I just made a few pirate boat groups using project OPFOR and vanilla boats, called it African Pirates. It worked fine, took 15 minutes. Can't ask for better than that! Of course, I have to see if OPCOM is smart enough to move those boats to another island and offload the troops, but that's a whole different can of worms.

@HeroesandvillainsOS  Two questions to anyone that may know:

1. What's the recommended way to edit a saved ORBAT faction? I know it's recommended not to edit an existing faction. Can I just select it, make some tweaks and export th new config to clipboard or should I "start over" and import the configs from my new faction and rename it?

2. What's the proper way to get units inside the vehicles for motorized units? It seems only driver and gunner get in, but at least in the editor, the other units just stand beside the vehicle (haven't checked to see if they teleport inside them in-game yet though).

1. I believe the caution is not to edit someone else's faction unless you know it in and out. However if it's your faction I don't see a problem editing in the config file or using the ORBAT to change things up and re-export. For example I just made those pirates and accidentally had an extra unit in one of the boats. I simply deleted that unit from the group config and adjusted the numbers of the rest, then recompiled the PBO. Worked fine.

2. I am having the exact same issue. I know that you can move them into the vehicle by dragging in Eden, and I know that typically as soon as the leader gets an order he'll command the group into the vehicle. But as far as ensuring that happens... The init field of the leader might work. Command get in, or whatever it is. I believe you can even define the init field code from within the config. Or you can write a script and have the init field of the leader call it. Something like that.

I would suggest building out a simple mission to show spawns of your ORBAT faction, place a Zeus module down, and load the mission up in LAN Multiplayer. That will give you an idea of how OpCOM will handle those vehicles with added infantry units.

I made an ATV and Offroad truck with extra units, and they will spawn and load into the vehicles under OpCom control.