ORBAT Creator General FAQ

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  2. 7 years ago

    sup im in real need of help im not technicaly minded (anti epileptic drugs make impossible to concentrate)
    ive saved the stuff from the orbat now how do i make it an actual ingame faction that i can use for a mission ive been making for my team
    i dont know do i have to do it via workshop or anything i cant make sense of what to do now
    this is what i have so far

  3. @raytd sup im in real need of help im not technicaly minded (anti epileptic drugs make impossible to concentrate)
    ive saved the stuff from the orbat now how do i make it an actual ingame faction that i can use for a mission ive been making for my team
    i dont know do i have to do it via workshop or anything i cant make sense of what to do now
    this is what i have so far

    Everything you need is either on or linked on this page:

    http://alivemod.com/wiki/index.php/ORBAT_Tool

  4. Edited 7 years ago by thick1988

    Can someone explain to me the Supported Group types and how ALiVE implements them? Specifically, Im referring to Motorized Infantry(MTP) and Support Infantry.

    How do these differ from just Motorized Infantry and Infantry?

    EDIT: Nvm found my answer from Spyder awhile back.

    Motorized_MTP is just some random BIS decision. NATO uses Motorized and CSAT uses Motorized_MTP, just pick one or the other and fill it out. Support Infantry are called in for reinforcements (logcom)

  5. I made a few factions with ORBATRON and it works great most of the time but there are instances where the same units will spawn in without clothes or with clothes from the base units (eg use a vanilla BLUFOR unit as an import and editing it completely).

  6. Should I increase the sleep 0.2?

  7. Edited 7 years ago by GrizzlyBear83

    I have the same issue, I put all instances of 0.2 sleep at 0.0 and the issue disappeared.

  8. So I've been having an issue with a custom faction I created. When placing units in the Editor, they appear as they should, but when I Preview/Play the mission, all of the units helmets and backpacks change. I dug through the cfg stuff that ORBAT exports thinking there might be an issue with assigned gear, but I couldn't find anything. If I re-import the units into ORBAT to try and tweak them, their helmets and backpacks are changed. The weapons, uniforms, and gear that I assigned the units all stays how it's supposed to be, it's just the helmets that change, and 90% of the time, it assignes the exact same helmet to all the units.

    I have next to no coding experience so I'm at a complete loss as to what might be causing this, especially because the units all appear how they are supposed to when I place them in the editor but only change when I enter the game.

  9. Noticed that units with underbarrel grenade launchers always load the grenade launcher upon first spawn. Annoying. So, when I make ORBAT units, I reverted back to a previous ALiVE version and when making missions I go to the latest version. A bit teadious.

  10. 6 years ago

    @opendome:

    when I had the same problems with my ORBAT factions, I found out it's because I forgot to export the cfg Patches data and paste this into the respective file in my pre-PBO folder.

    In there, you need autogen.hpp, configPatches.hpp and config.cpp and if you press "Export Full Faction" in ORBAT, you'll receive only the data for autogen.hpp, but are still missing the data you NEED to paste into configPatches.hpp!

    So if you have isssues with a PBO version of your ORBAT faction, try this and report back if it did help you! :-)

  11. Tupolov

    6 Dec 2017 Administrator

    New release has some major new features... Please check it out...

    1. Ability to import ORBATRON factions
    2. Units now work with loadout changes in editor
    3. Ability to write complete config to file
    4. Copy functionality improved.
  12. <3 import! yay. For idiots like me that make mistakes after 3hrs!

  13. Edited 6 years ago by dev614

    @Tupolov New release has some major new features... Please check it out...

    1. Ability to import ORBATRON factions
    2. Units now work with loadout changes in editor
    3. Ability to write complete config to file
    4. Copy functionality improved.

    The copy functionality has a bug when copying a faction over to a different side. Each unit remains true to their original side, though the classnames are changed. I copied the OPFOR faction "CUP_O_TK" to make it independent, and each unit is set to belong to "OPFOR CSAT" when copied to the independent side.

    Also, when exporting a full faction to a file and then creating a .pbo out of the files, running the .pbo as is will cause the game to crash on start. This is due to a references in script_component.hpp that doesn't exist:

    #include "\x\cfp\addons\main\script_mod.hpp"
    #include "\x\cfp\addons\main\script_macros.hpp"

    Deleting those lines will remove the error.

  14. Edited 6 years ago by Nablatidis

    @tourist

    I'm having a similar problem. Just came back after months and I used to be able to get it to work, now it doesn't.

    I copied a faction and started editing some of the units, ran out of time so I exported the full faction (not the file option) and pasted in the hpp file. Then copied the config and pasted in the cfg file. Pbod it and fired up the mod to test. It worked fine until I started editing the units that I didn't have time to edit yet. Whenever I edit them and save changes, it just reverts back to original.
    Am I missing something really simple here?

  15. I have a problem I’ve been struggling with for a long time, and I have not been able to find a solution. I think we talked about it before, but I can’t fine where, so sorry if I’m bringing up an old topic but I really want to get to the bottom of it.

    So, the problem is whenI’m making a faction with vehicles from other addons, like RHS or Project Opfor, and I use vehicles with turrets.
    I then get an error message saying ”No entry ’bin/CfgVehicles/VEHICLE_CLASS_NAME/Turrets/MainTurret.maxHorizontalRotSpeed’”

    And here I stand without any idea of how to get around this issue. I have one faction that I made with an early (first public release version) of the Orbatron that uses vehicles from above addons without problem, so I ”know” there is a way to use them for the Orbatarang.

    Now... help me. Please! I’m losing my mind here.

  16. Friznit

    31 Dec 2017 Administrator

    That's more likely a problem with the addon than anything that the Orbatron is doing.

  17. Yeah, I’m sure it is. But that would mean no Orbat factions with RHS and or Project Opfor vehicles. Aren’t there any at all around?

    And also, seeing as how it is possible to get around it (I did once, with an early Orbat – but don’t ask me how) i hope it is possible to find a way to hack our way past this.

  18. Edited 6 years ago by Imbazil

    I just tried to create the Unsung faction but when I click on Unsung_E in the orbat editor, then go to unit editor and load from config the game freeze and I usually have to restart the pc.

    I guess this is a issue from unsung? does anyone have a working faction for them already made? (I tried some "fixes" from the workshop but they all gave other errors instead.)

  19. Factions list is here:
    http://alivemod.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Factions

    Unsung is under Community Mod Factions

  20. Edited 6 years ago by Imbazil

    ah, yes those work from what I can see. The issue for me is that i'd like to make my own so I can decide more in detail what to spawn and mostly reduce the size of the groups. (it's a smaller coop mission)

    if I place groups manually for the commander would those exact groups be the ones that respawn? or would it just take a random inf / mech / armor unit from the defined list and replace my manually placed group?

    edit: managed to "fix" it by typing the description.ext file manually, still no idea why there are so many issues with orbat + alive but since other mods work fine I guess this is something the unsung team must fix from their end.

  21. I made a faction by merely changing the side of an existing one from blufor to opfor and exporting the full faction cfg to description.ext. Then I changed the faction name in the description.ext. This is the method mentioned here :

    Editing an existing addon: select the faction and change the side/flag but leave the name and classname the same. If you make no changes to the units loadouts you can simply apply the faction config at the mission level by pasting it into description.ext. This is a quick and easy way to change the side or name of a faction for a one off mission whilst leaving everything else intact.

    The correct groups spawn in the military module but they keep their original side (blufor in the map) and start shooting each other.

    Also in the wiki it mentions the possibility of creating a group by mixing units from different factions and using the same method (description.ext) but it seems that the only way of doing that is to create new units which is not possible with this method, is there any alternative?

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